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Poster: paulypecker Date: Nov 24, 2008 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: INITIATIONS

I realize this may be a bit of an old topic for discussion but would any of you be willing to share your thoughts on your first show? Maybe get a better idea of who we're all corresponding with?
My first show was 4/12/82 at Nassau,near where I live. It was a magical experience.Seen 31 shows all together.Not a lot- in comparison to many of you guys,I'm sure. I got a ticket on the floor,16th row,and do remember it well.I was only 14 and had to talk my folks into letting me go.My older brothers played Dead all the time and that's how I got into them.
More memories to share at a later date.

"Mama,mama many worlds I've come since i first left home"!!!

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Poster: jackstraw86 Date: Nov 24, 2008 5:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

My first show was 29 years ago tomorrow, 11/25/79 at Pauly Pavilion, UCLA. Here’s the link where I reviewed it: http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-11-25.sbd.miller.25609.sbeok.shnf

I didn't know a lot about the band but I did know their names. I saw the Dead movie a couple months earlier and knew I had to see them live. The whole time we kept saying, “Where’s the chick and who’s that keyboard player with the REALLY long hair”. I was 18 and it was the first real concert of any kind and I couldn’t believe the circus. It was quite a (nice) eye opener. The Jack Straw opener smoked and each song they played just jammed. It was amazing. The second set Shakedown-> Bertha was killer. I remember my mind wandering during the instrumentals and then I’d wander back to the music and think, they’re still playing THIS song? I mean that in a good way in that the music just let my mind roam as the jams ebbed and flowed. It was an experience I’d never forget and knew I had to see them every time they came to town. I ended up seeing them 69 times until Vegas 95. I probably should’ve stopped after Brent died as they really declined after that. It wasn’t until the first Irvine show, 3/27/83 that I really “figured out the whole scene” and of course the secrets of the universe. If you want to read that amusing review, you’ll find it here:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd83-03-27.sennheiser.dodd.11261.sbeok.shnf

Nice thread. I’m enjoying reading these accounts. Too bad about the punkers. I was into the Talking Heads and other (at the time) alternative music (saw Black Flag in 1980) and it is a bit surprising that Deadheads gave them a hard time. But it was 79 and people still weren’t sure what to do with punk.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Nov 24, 2008 11:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

"Oh yeah, the recording is pretty good too!".I love that.
Nice descriptive of your "experience".Sounds like you came out of it with a whole new perspective,like many of us have.
Great story-happy to hear all went well(aside from missing the show).I guess you eventually got through the pinhole safely.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Nov 25, 2008 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

I STILL wish I had all the $$$ I wasted going to all these crappy shows...

01/08/79 - MSG
09/06/79 - MSG
11/02/79 - Nassau
03/30/80 - Passaic
05/16/80 - Nassau
10/23/80 - RC
10/25/80 - RC
10/26/80 - RC
10/30/80 - RC
10/31/80 - RC
03/09/81 - MSG
03/10/81 - MSG
05/06/81 - Nassau
05/08/81 - Nassau
05/09/81 - Nassau
05/15/81 - Rutgers
05/16/81 - Barton (best show I saw!)
09/26/81 - Buffalo
04/03/82 - Norfolk
04/08/82 - Syracuse
04/11/82 - Nassau
04/12/82 - Nassau
09/14/82 - Charlottesville
09/20/82 - MSG
04/09/83 - Hampton
04/16/83 - Meadowlands
04/17/83 - Meadowlands
04/22/83 - New Haven
04/23/83 - New Haven
06/18/83 - Saratoga
06/22/83 - Harrisburg
10/08/83 - Richmond
10/09/83 - Greensboro
10/11/83 - MSG (St. Stephen)
10/12/83 - MSG
04/13/84 - Hampton
04/14/84 - Hampton
04/29/84 - Nassau
04/30/84 - Nassau
06/12/84 - Red Rocks
06/13/84 - Red Rocks
06/13/84 - Red Rocks
06/23/84 - Harrisburg
06/24/84 - Saratoga
06/26/84 - Merriweather
06/27/84 - Merriweather
06/29/84 - Blossom
10/05/84 - Charlotte
10/06/84 - Richmond
10/17/84 - Meadowlands
10/18/84 - Meadowlands
10/20/84 - Syracuse
03/21/85 - Hampton
03/22/85 - Hampton
02/27/85 - Nassau
03/28/85 - Nassau
03/29/85 - Nassau
03/31/85 - Portland
04/01/85 - Portland
04/03/85 - Providence
04/04/85 - Providence
04/06/85 - Spectrum
04/07/85 - Spectrum
04/08/85 - Spectrum
06/27/85 - Saratoga
06/28/85 - Hershey
06/30/85 - Merriweather
07/01/85 - Merriweather
10/28/85 - Fabulous Fox
10/29/85 - Fabulous Fox
10/31/85 - Columbia, SC
11/01/85 - Richmond
11/02/85 - Richmond
11/10/85 - Meadowlands
11/11/85 - Meadowlands
03/19/86 - Hampton
03/20/86 - Hampton
03/21/86 - Hampton
03/27/86 - Portland
03/28/86 - Portland
03/30/86 - Providence
03/31/86 - Providence
04/01/86 - Providence
04/03/86 - Hartford
04/04/86 - Hartford
03/22/87 - Hampton
03/23/87 - Hampton
03/24/87 - Hampton
03/26/87 - Hartford
03/27/87 - Hartford
04/06/87 - Meadowlands
04/07/87 - Meadowlands
09/18/87 - MSG
04/01/88 - Meadowlands
09/24/88 - MSG
10/18/88 - New Orleans (Nevilles)
10/14/89 - Meadowlands
03/28/90 - Nassau
03/29/90 - Nasau (Branford!)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 25, 2008 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

buttmuncher


go catch fish

;)

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Nov 25, 2008 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

HAHAHAH

Yeah Cliff, with all that saved money you could porbably by a ticket to the next Madonna show or something!!!


heheheh . . . my first show was Cape Cod Coll - I have no (or dim) recollection of the actual show - but I do remember being amazed when I asked my parents permission and they simply said yes. I was a jr in high-school and my friend just got his first car (a big old Oldsmobile station wagon) and about 9 of us hopped in and drove to the Cape to see the Greatful Dead. Then when we got back to LI we couldn't get tickets to the 'Halloween' show, but did get them for that oft overlooked 11/2/79 show - I clearly remember this show as the Dead started playing and you could barely hear them cause the sound system was turned on. After that it was random shows till 87 or 89 with some noteable ones 3/9/81, 4/17/83 (I think) at Patrick Gym UVM, 9/17/82 Maine - a bunch of MSG, Nassau, Hartford, Providence, Boston, Springfield, SPAC, Syracuse - and a fun time was had by all.

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Poster: Thai Stick Date: Nov 25, 2008 10:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

WOW, I Would Be Dead For Real, Or In A Loonie Been.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 24, 2008 9:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Whoa. I guess this post will make me the old fart on the thread (so far).

My first show was 6/10/73 at RFK. I was 11 and my Dad took me. We were visiting friends of my parents in Annapolis and they had two tickets. I vaguely remember the spectacle - hot and a lot of people. I think we stayed for two hours or so and then left. I do remember my Mom laying into my Dad when he told her that people were there, gasp, 'smoking pot'.

My first 'real' show was at The Spectrum 4/22/77. I was not quite 16. Had a nice Molson Golden buzz going and remember groping the hell out of my girlfriend during Playin', much to the dismay of her older brothers who had taken us. I distinctly remember the Scarlet-Fire second set blast-off (more groping and making out), the crowd got way fired up during Dancin', the whole damn Spectrum sang along during Wheel and Terrapin was a great close. Had a baseball game the next day - didn't pitch too well.

Saw the bulk of my shows from then on until '79. Landover, Baltimore, Richmond, Hampton, a handful of Capitol Theatre.

Joined the Navy in '79 and didn't see another show until the Spectrum again in April '83. A bunch of my buddies from the Naval Academy went to the Merriweather Post shows in June right after graduation - then we scattered to our various first tours.

Was stationed in upstate NY and took in several New Haven, Providence and Saratoga shows. Deployments and a new family curtailed much of my concertgoing over the next few years until 92 in Hampton (was stationed on a submarine in Norfolk).

Last show was with my wife in LA, 12/19/94. Her first, my 83rd. That show is a topic for a new thread.

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Poster: WHARFRAT Date: Nov 24, 2008 6:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

5-4-77 here was my first show.
I was also at all those shows you were at up till '91.
I did not see The Dylan and the Dead show in '87.
How ya doing? Nieghbor? I only saw East Coast shows.
Damn, How unlucky I was.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Nov 24, 2008 11:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Doin' fine-thanks for asking.Yeah,would have been nice to see a West Coast show-like a New Years' or a maybe a Red Rocks one.
But I'm happy with what I was able to see.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Nov 24, 2008 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Hi Pauly, what a great idea for a thread, IMHO. I hope you get a lot of 'play' with it...

I only attended one show, but it's better than none, I suppose...or it would have been if the show hadn't sucked so bad, including the whole experience, not just the band. I wrote a review of it on the board for this show, but I didn't tell the story. Now would be the time...take your mind back, if you will, to NYE, Oakland Auditorium, 12-31-1979...

Dosed to the gills, my 2 teeny bopper friends and I show up in the Fabled Parking Lot, sans tickets. One of my friends was supposed to buy them, but 'spaced it.' Not getting off on the right foot, eh? Hanging out in the Lot, we were fortunate to find a scalper with 3 spare tickets at a kind of high price, but we were lucky to find him, or so we thought, until we tried to get in and found we had spent our last $$$ on counterfeit tix. Some kind soul overheard our plight and Miracled us for real...the best thing that happened that night. Whoever you are, man, if you're out there, I hope you were karmically reimbursed for that act! :D

On the way back to the line to get in, we espied a young couple in full punk regalia, also on their way in. I love punk music, and was encouraged to see open minded punk rockers going into a Dead show. That was, until I saw some Heads calling names at them and actually throwing garbage at the blameless punks. This was the tolerant, enviable Parking Lot scene everyone had been raving about? Disappointing, to say the least, and we were years away from the Touchhead era....wow.

The show itself? Might be one of the worst performances I've ever heard, and I was trying hard to like it at the time (see my review on the page for the board, which I'll link at the bottom here). Over than a really cool version of Althea, there are virtually NO highlights, and plenty of F-ups, although the China/Rider gave me a thrill, as it's one of my fave medleys...but this version is pretty limp. And this was a NYE show, for cry-yi...sad sad sad. Listening to it later, I can see that it wasn't my state of mind making me not enjoy this show: it really IS lousy. Hear for yourself:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-12-31.sbd.hinko.17281.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2008-11-25 00:36:10

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2008-11-25 00:36:47

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Nov 24, 2008 4:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

My first show was at the Philly Civic Center 4-21-84.
I was a senior in high school and it was my first concert ever. I really don't remember much about it. Rode up in a van with a bunch of guys from school. We got pretty toked up on the way up and then bought some doses in the lot. The thing that left the most lasting impression on me was seeing all the freaks ( I mean that in a good way) on the streets outside the venue. I really had no idea what to expect and it was an eye opening experience to say the least. I also seem to recall that some heads without tickets were trying to climb the front of the building to get to a balcony above to scam into the show. Or it could have just been the doses. Don't really remember much about the show itself, although I have listened to it here on archive. A pretty good first show, but nothing outstanding. I seem to remember that we all had a pretty good time. I definitely recall that it was a drag having to make my curfew at home pretty much right after the show. Spent the rest of the night tripping by myself in my room. Would rather have still been out partying. Oh well!!

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 24, 2008 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

that 4-21 gig is a fav of mine. Love that show and yes....I like Don't need Love

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 24, 2008 8:04pm
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" Love that show and yes....I like Don't need Love "

Lobster, I believe that's the first or second time I've disagreed with your otherwise impeccible tasts

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 25, 2008 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Believe me I know I'm in the minority on Don't Need Love. Even Jerry hated it. If you look at the times it was performed, many of them indicate that jerry actually leaves the stage during it. I think that's pretty funny.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Nov 24, 2008 5:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Thanks for the response.Sorry your only experience was not up to par.I've seen some clunkers too,but for the most part,solid shows:

4/12/82-Nassau Coliseum,NY
4/29/84-Nassau
4/6/87-Meadowlands, NJ
7/2/87-Rochester,NY
7/12/87-Giants Stadium(w/Dylan)
9/20/87-MSG
3/30/88-Meadowlands
9/8/88-Spectrum
9/12/88-Spectrum
7/10/89-Giant's
10/18/89-Spectrum
10/19/89-Spectrum
9/10/90-Spectrum
3/28/91-Nassau
3/29/91-Nassau
6/16/91-Giant's
9/14/91-MSG
3/16/92-Spectrum
3/17/92-Spectrum
3/18/92-Spectrum
6/15/92-Giant's
3/31/93-Nassau
4/1/93-Nassau
4/5/93-Nassau
6/6/93-Giant's
9/21/93-MSG
9/22/93-MSG
3/28/94-Nassau
8/3/94-Giant's
10/19/94-MSG
6/18/95-Giant's

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Nov 24, 2008 5:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

I believe there are more good Dead shows than bad ones, there's proof enough here on the Archive! :) Timing is everything...lol

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Nov 25, 2008 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

"On the way back to the line to get in, we espied a young couple in full punk regalia, also on their way in. I love punk music, and was encouraged to see open minded punk rockers going into a Dead show. That was, until I saw some Heads calling names at them and actually throwing garbage at the blameless punks."

MAYBE it was just PAYBACK for the incident earlier that year at SPARTAN STADIUM (4-22-79) in San Jose. A gang of PUNKS were screaming, "Bury the Grateful Dead" just before the band hit the stage at 2 PM on a Saturday afternoon...

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Poster: daliguana Date: Nov 25, 2008 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Well - I got on the bus in 1991 with my first boot of Sandstone Amp, 91. I'd been listening to the albums for about two years by then - tripping my face off and coming down smoothly to American Beauty. My 'sid dealer hipped me the live show mentioned above. I was hooked. Being from South Dakota, it took me four more years to make it to a show, 5-20-95 Sam Boyd Stadium. I was too awed to really take it all in - Vegas is huge, man! And hot - whew!! Bought some bunk 'sid in the lot, although the guy may have spiked the joint we smoked - was pretty high, but not trippin'. Anywhos, my (now-ex) wife and I spent our fourth anniversary at the show. Marriage only lasted another year, but the Dead are still very important in my life. Only made it to one show, but better than not making a show!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 24, 2008 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: INITIATIONS

Man, I though I was getting old. Well, I guess not for a GD chatroom I'm not! My first was one of Brent's last: 7/8/90 show at Three Rivers Stadium. A hot, hot daytime concert with huge screens, gigantic skeletons that appeared during Estimated. The whole experience totally blew me away. The first set is a bit of a blur, but I think I really found myself during the first set closer, Let it Grow. After that it was just like one big spinning ride. Eyes -> Estimated, a post-space Wang Dang Doodle. I didn't know what the f*** was going on. What a great time that was.

I saw about 25 shows after that, including the first two Wellnick shows at Richfield, various shows from spring, summer and fall '91, and several after that, including the last show in Chicago, which honestly might have been the worst one I saw (also might have been the 4/1/95 Memphis show, which sucked pretty hard). Most of them were good though, if not great, and to some extent sound even better in retrospect. I've got to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised at how good some of these sound here on archive.org. I feared that my enjoyment of those shows might have been, um, prejudiced, by something else.

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Poster: CompSurfahV2 Date: Nov 25, 2008 3:24am
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My First Show:
3-29-93 Albany, NY... The Knick

I remember driving 3 hours in a rain-storm to get there... Walking around the lots beforehand, simply people-watching.

Set 2:
Here Comes Sunshine
Looks Like Rain
Box Of Rain

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Poster: Thai Stick Date: Nov 25, 2008 7:23am
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82 Duke U Was The First

The Best One Of The Bunch Would Have Been Soldier Field 92
I Still Have Prints From A Hippie In A Van, Not The Freeze Dried , Hell I Think He Was Growing Them In His Van.


The 82 Duke Show Was Great Also. Was There With A Hot Chick
From School So Just Alot Of Smoke. The Music Was Great

Peace

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 25, 2008 8:19am
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Hey Pauly,

I happened to be at that 4/12/82 Nassau show, too!

My very first show was also at Nassau Coliseum. It was 1/11/79 and I remember a number of things that put me on the bus for good: One was hearing my first ever live version of Jack Straw. That was when I realized what being there live meant, and how it just can't compare to anything you hear on record. The jam they opened up was just insane. Never heard anything like it before and i was all lit up inside. (Like you I was very young....just 14...went w/my best friend and we were chaperoned by my Mom...thanx, Mom!)

I was also fortunate in that it was the only show I ever got to see w/Keith and Donna...this was at the tail end of their tenure, but I'm glad I can say I at least saw that incarnation of the band at least once...and my first show, no less.

Hard to say which of the 70+ shows over the following years I saw was the greatest...they ALL had their moments...but certainly the MSG show in 1983 when they pulled out the first Stephen in 5 years stands out...as well as the 1986 Hampton show when they pulled out the first Box of Rain in 14 years. After they ended set 1 w/that I remember streams of Deadheads running out to the pay phones (remember those?)...lines of them, calling up other heads, just screaming 'BOX OF RAIN!' into the phone and hanging up, then running around like madmen after wards.

ahhhhh, the memories.

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Poster: paulypecker Date: Nov 25, 2008 11:52am
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Love the"BOX" remembrance story.Good imagery.Must have been a trip to hear it and then see the pumped reaction of your fellow concertgoers scrambling to tell their friends who had no idea what just went down.Thanks for your memories.

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